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		<title>By: the black China hand &#187; Google.com.cn hacked! Larry and Sergey say enough is enough!</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-29657</link>
		<dc:creator>the black China hand &#187; Google.com.cn hacked! Larry and Sergey say enough is enough!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 03:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What is going on with Google [...]</description>
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		<title>By: About Google and America's war of the Internet &#124; CHINAYOUREN</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-21224</link>
		<dc:creator>About Google and America's war of the Internet &#124; CHINAYOUREN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case of Google&#8217;s new approach to China is moving slower than expected, but I have the feeling that we may see something happen pretty [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] case of Google&#8217;s new approach to China is moving slower than expected, but I have the feeling that we may see something happen pretty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What's up with Google in China &#124; CHINAYOUREN</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19871</link>
		<dc:creator>What's up with Google in China &#124; CHINAYOUREN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blog     &#171; What is going on with Google in China? Google and China (3): Some updates &#187; &#160;  What is going on with Google (2): consequences  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blog     &laquo; What is going on with Google in China? Google and China (3): Some updates &raquo; &nbsp;  What is going on with Google (2): consequences  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LaoLao</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19558</link>
		<dc:creator>LaoLao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, can you just verify something for me? I just got the tank man on google.cn . It looks like they turned off the filtering already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, can you just verify something for me? I just got the tank man on google.cn . It looks like they turned off the filtering already!</p>
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		<title>By: KINABLOG.dk &#187; Censur på internettet: Opsamling om Google og Kina</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19525</link>
		<dc:creator>KINABLOG.dk &#187; Censur på internettet: Opsamling om Google og Kina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chinayouren er skeptisk over for Google og mener, at det er en mærkelig beslutning. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Uln</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19523</link>
		<dc:creator>Uln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mat- Sure about the blog. That is clear now. 

About the Google.cn, I don&#039;t think so. I have been testing myself and there is little difference with the tests I did last year. Try &quot;零八宪章&quot; for example, Chinese for the Charter 08, and you will see all the results manipulated like they always were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mat- Sure about the blog. That is clear now. </p>
<p>About the Google.cn, I don&#8217;t think so. I have been testing myself and there is little difference with the tests I did last year. Try &#8220;零八宪章&#8221; for example, Chinese for the Charter 08, and you will see all the results manipulated like they always were.</p>
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		<title>By: Uln</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19522</link>
		<dc:creator>Uln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, but companies don&#039;t usually protest in public, it is  individuals and associations that do.

The main problem is in the form: if Google had decided to not accept China&#039;s imposition of self-censorship, then that was fine. But as it stands, it is challenging China publicly, and that is way out of Google&#039;s purpose and scope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but companies don&#8217;t usually protest in public, it is  individuals and associations that do.</p>
<p>The main problem is in the form: if Google had decided to not accept China&#8217;s imposition of self-censorship, then that was fine. But as it stands, it is challenging China publicly, and that is way out of Google&#8217;s purpose and scope.</p>
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		<title>By: Uln</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19520</link>
		<dc:creator>Uln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thats cool. I really admire P Hessler as a writer (in spite of not giving him 100% positive reviews) I think he is also coming this March to Sh Lit Fest, so I wont miss his chat there.

Regarding Google decision: I don&#039;t agree, Google message says the emails were accessed by hacking the computers, not the servers of Google themselves. As it is written in the initial blog by G, this and other forms of information control are not new at all, nor directly related to Google, so why take the decision now? 

And anyway, I see the moral side of the argument. But when it comes to a company with the responsibility of Google, I  actions cannot be based only on &quot;heart&quot; or moral considerations but also on results: what if the result of this moral action is that things will become even worse?

Another point of view: Did Google withdraw from the USA when the tortures of Irak were discovered? Or did it say something about the thousands of people the US killed in Irak or other countries without any moral justification? 
 
Chinese system is unjust and needs to change, but so are many other things, and the only way to change them is using out head, not just our hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thats cool. I really admire P Hessler as a writer (in spite of not giving him 100% positive reviews) I think he is also coming this March to Sh Lit Fest, so I wont miss his chat there.</p>
<p>Regarding Google decision: I don&#8217;t agree, Google message says the emails were accessed by hacking the computers, not the servers of Google themselves. As it is written in the initial blog by G, this and other forms of information control are not new at all, nor directly related to Google, so why take the decision now? </p>
<p>And anyway, I see the moral side of the argument. But when it comes to a company with the responsibility of Google, I  actions cannot be based only on &#8220;heart&#8221; or moral considerations but also on results: what if the result of this moral action is that things will become even worse?</p>
<p>Another point of view: Did Google withdraw from the USA when the tortures of Irak were discovered? Or did it say something about the thousands of people the US killed in Irak or other countries without any moral justification? </p>
<p>Chinese system is unjust and needs to change, but so are many other things, and the only way to change them is using out head, not just our hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19507</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google, owner of Blogger, largest Internet company in the world. When the Senior Vice President of Google, Chief Legal Officer, makes a BLOG post that *is* an official company statement. The guy who wrote the post signed the blog post, there really isn&#039;t any room for speculation on that point.

There&#039;s also evidence that previously blocked searches have already started appearing in results on google.cn. This wasn&#039;t some off the cuff statement, they were ready for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google, owner of Blogger, largest Internet company in the world. When the Senior Vice President of Google, Chief Legal Officer, makes a BLOG post that *is* an official company statement. The guy who wrote the post signed the blog post, there really isn&#8217;t any room for speculation on that point.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also evidence that previously blocked searches have already started appearing in results on google.cn. This wasn&#8217;t some off the cuff statement, they were ready for it.</p>
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		<title>By: yinbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>yinbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very perceptive. 

I am categorically opposed to censorship. But I am very surprised that google announced this in a blog, rather than an official company statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very perceptive. </p>
<p>I am categorically opposed to censorship. But I am very surprised that google announced this in a blog, rather than an official company statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Google.cn hacked, Larry and Sergey say enough is enough</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19500</link>
		<dc:creator>Google.cn hacked, Larry and Sergey say enough is enough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jake Adelstein</title>
		<link>http://chinayouren-free.com/2010/01/13/2715/comment-page-1#comment-19497</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Adelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milton,
A more concise version of what I was trying to say. I agree. Maybe I&#039;m too damn liberal and not a realist but sometimes, sometimes, when you demand people act like decent human beings--they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milton,<br />
A more concise version of what I was trying to say. I agree. Maybe I&#8217;m too damn liberal and not a realist but sometimes, sometimes, when you demand people act like decent human beings&#8211;they do.</p>
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